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Living with (other people’s) depression

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the-real-seebs:

A sort of preliminary guide to living with depression.

This came about because I’ve seen some people talking about experiences they’ve had recently with friends or family who are having a hard time dealing with a depressed person,…

Once I didn’t get out of bed except to go to the bathroom for almost three weeks. I ate crackers and peanut butter and skipped all my classes. For three weeks.

I still feel like I’m failing.

Heck, if you were that fucked up, and you lived through it, that’s actually sorta something, you know?

Living with (other people’s) depression

Gratitude: That Word Doesn’t Necessarily Mean What You Think It Means

twistedingenue:

hoosierbitch:

From the lovely, generous, thoughtful arsenicjade

1. I’m aware of what I have. I suspect many people with severe clinical depression are. And we ARE grateful for it. But being grateful is not equal to being happy, or even NOT DEPRESSED.

Depression is a chemical misfire of the brain. It’s not sadness. Sadness will come and go. Depression, if treatment-resistant, may not. And unlike “A Beautiful Mind” would have the average person believe, mental illness is not actually something you can reason your way out of.

I can no more say to myself, “It is a pretty day and breakfast was delicious and I love my dog,” and force myself out of the depression than someone without an arm can regrow that limb out of the awareness that things would be so much easier.

I almost didn’t go to therapy today, because I feel like my problems are common place, and can be solved by common sense, and I don’t want to take up time and resources that could be used by other people. And Therapist said: “You’re not ever wasting my time. You’re bi-polar, and that’s really hard for a lot of different reasons, and I’m someone who understands that. I’m here to help you.”

So now I’m crying off and on at a cafe because I’ve seen four therapists throughout my life and still don’t feel like I have a handle on how to deal with being bipolar, and I SHOULDN’T feel selfish or guilty for going to therapy. I still do, but I shouldn’t, and I’m working on treating my feelings—even the obvious ones, or ones I thought I worked through in the past—like they’re legitimate and important.

arsenicjade’s post convinced me to go to my appointment today.

This was really good to read today, for almost the same reasons. Thank you both.

Gratitude: That Word Doesn’t Necessarily Mean What You Think It Means

A lot of tumblr paganism has responded to asks dealing with the difficulties of being good to the Gods by giving spells and charms to deal with depression and anxiety. That has never worked for me, and it sometimes feels really simplistic and…misleading almost. What do you think we can do to actually help each other when dealing with mental illnesses instead of answers that do not work?

cocreate-paganism:

Hi anon.

For some people who are going through a rough patch, spells and charms like that are a way to hold onto something that can help. But for many more of those, they don’t help, or they are ineffective bandages. 

We each have different ways of dealing with mental illnesses, and we need to make our community more open to the many ways that we approach the issue. 

I think a good first step is making room for people to be open and safe about talking about mental illness. We need room for education – and education from people who actually have these illnesses or personality disorders! Without this, we will continue to get ineffective bandages. By opening the road for communication, by reducing shame around admitting illness or the problems we are facing, we open the road for better answers to our problems. So the first step we need is open communication.

And don’t think that’s easy! It’s easy on paper, but it’s hard to achieve in communities. Often, without meaning to, we demonize people by saying they are ‘crazy’ or they ‘have problems’ or ‘need to see a therapist’. 

I want you to imagine a community that has people who can actually help people get therapy if that is what they need. (And that sort of thing can never and should never come from anons or someone who do not know. If it does, it’s just more ableism and shaming.)

I don’t want to clog this ask with ways to open up communication, though, so I’m going to try to get back to your question.

The second step in actually helping each other is acknowledging that we have different needs. Some people will be able to use spells to hold them through a tough time. Other people need therapy for a short time period to help them through. Other people need long term therapy, or perhaps lifelong. Others need medication. Some people need friends that they can talk to and be honest and open with. Others will need to pursue herbal healing.

We cannot demonize any of these methods. If we truly want to help people, we can’t demonize therapy or medication – or herbal healing or spiritual healing. We do need to make sure that whatever a person is using is actually helping them. 

The third step is communal activism. What this means is:

  • we keep an eye on each other to make sure people are doing okay – and this means everyone! We have to look out for each other.
  • helping people get the resources they need – when you’re depressed or otherwise sick, getting to those resources can be almost if not actually impossible
  • we support those who are dealing with illness – in a way they are comfortable with. This means not forcing people to be public about their experiences, and it also means not silencing people.
  • if local, we have to make sure that our community members are being treated fairly by the medical establishment and step in to help them if they are not. We cannot let people be hurt when they are seeking help.
  • and, finally, we don’t let people use mental illness as an excuse for abusive behavior. We have to make sure that we do not give a pass to abuse because someone is mentally ill. If we do, we are helping no one.

To give good answers for issues like these, we have to truly understand them. We cannot treat them as ‘just in the mind’ (the mind is powerful!), nor can we dehumanize those that have mental illnesses. 

To give good answers, we have to listen to each other’s stories. Which, unfortunately, we’re not there yet. We are, currently, a very fast-paced community. That is great in some cases! But when it comes to getting answers that can help us through tough times, or through tough lives, or through dark nights of the soul – fast-paced is exactly the opposite. If we want to give good answers, provide good support, we have to sit ourselves down and open our ears and hearts up to people.

(Cheesy, I know. But when someone listens to us, truly listens, that opens up paths we would never have expected.)

We can’t know your story; we can’t know what you actually need without listening to what is going on. That is how we get good answers. That is how we get more than spells.

Problem: We have ineffective aid for people struggling with mental illness and spiritual crisis.

Ideal Solution: We need people who will patiently listen to people’s lives and stories and help them work through to useful help – whether that is seeking alternative healing, medication and therapy, or something else. In most religions, this person would be a pastoral counselor. We don’t have many of those in Pagan and polytheist communities. 

Suggested Solution: Share your story aloud. Talk about what you are going through, your struggles – make a public sort of diary. Do this anonymously if you do not feel safe. Attempting to network with people who have made safe space may also be helpful. 

I will attempt to post links to helpful Pagan and polytheist organizations that provide counseling or support later today (4/24).

Thank you for your question, and feel free to respond back if you want to add more.

What most people forget about depression

mindaltering:

The thing about depression is that it either takes away all will to self-motivate and do what makes you feel better, or the things that made you feel better before have no affect on you anymore. That’s what most people forget. I hear all the time you should go meditate, go outside, take up some yoga, go socialize, or you’re not trying hard enough. With the other person not even realizing that if it was that easy, depression would probably not exist.

The opposite of depression is not happiness, but vitality, and it was vitality that seemed to seep away from me in that moment. Everything there was to do seemed like too much work. I would come home and I would see the red light flashing on my answering machine, and instead of being thrilled to hear from my friends, I would think, “What a lot of people that is to have to call back.” Or I would decide I should have lunch, and then I would think, but I’d have to get the food out and put it on a plate and cut it up and chew it and swallow it, and it felt to me like the Stations of the Cross.

And one of the things that often gets lost in discussions of depression is that you know it’s ridiculous. You know it’s ridiculous while you’re experiencing it. You know that most people manage to listen to their messages and eat lunch and organize themselves to take a shower and go out the front door and that it’s not a big deal, and yet you are nonetheless in its grip and you are unable to figure out any way around it.

Andrew Solomon, Depression – The Secret We Share, TED talks (via feigenbaumsworld)

This is exactly it.

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